Jan 13, 2022 • 9M

Episode 128: When Super Villains Take Our Advice (Amazing Spider-Man #12) -- May 1964

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Edward Nevraumont
What if... the Marvel Universe was real? In 1961 the Fantastic Four revealed themselves to the world and everything changed. Mike and Ed discuss the in-universe implications of super powers, aliens, monsters and more. From how Avenger Insurance will pay for Thor's property damage to why Spider-man needs a new PR agency, its comic books discussions in a whole new way. Every issue covered in the Marvel Universe from the very beginning. Full backstory on every episode with transcripts at www.SuperSerious616.com
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In this episode:

Mike and Ed discuss Dr. Octavius’s rampage across the country - and how no superheroes even attempted to stop him. If you commit a crime outside of New York City, did the crime even happen? And why, after all his success in places like Chicago and Dallas, did Doc Ock return to NYC? Will the ego of supervillains be their downfall? Also, to be clear, This is not legal advice for future supercriminals!

The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #12 | Comic Issues | Marvel

Behind the Issue

As we discuss in the episode this is one of the few examples of a super villain targeting cities outside New York. It is an iconic cover, and the first (of many) times that Spider-man was unmasked. This time Spider-mam went into the fight so weak his powers did not work, so when he was unmasked everyone assumed Peter was just trying to impress the girl. The issue also advances Peter’s first love interest with Betty Brant. Here Pete is about to share his secret with her before she tells him that she can’t stand the sight of Spider-man. More bad luck for Peter…

In this issue:

Dr. Octopus is on the run, engaging in a crime spree along the East Coast. He seems to be motivated about taking Spider-Man on again, though, and plans to return to New York City to confront him. He ends up doing that, and when they battle, Spider-Man unfortunately has the flu and is easily bested by Doc Ock. Spider-Man is unmasked and revealed to be Peter Parker. Everyone assumes that Peter was just dressed up as Spider-Man and not the real deal. Doc Ock leaves, frustrated that the “real” Spider-Man did not show up to battle him. Eventually, Spider-Man fights Doc Ock and, after an intense battle, takes a villain down.

Assumed before the next episode:

People are wondering why supercriminals keep attacking New York City.

This episode takes place:

After Spider-Man has beaten Doc Ock.