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Episode 157: Orange Alert! (Tales of Suspense #58) -- October 1964
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Episode 157: Orange Alert! (Tales of Suspense #58) -- October 1964

In this episode:

Mike and Ed discuss Kraven and the Chameleon sneaking back into America. How porous are our borders? Iron Man captured Kraven, but was then tricked by the Chameleon. Given that the two criminals are known associates, shouldn’t the capture of Kraven have led the superhero community to be on the lookout for impersonators? Why wasn’t Iron Man suspicious when “Captain America” started acting strangely? And shouldn’t the Avengers have files on every known super-criminal? There are not that many of them!

Tales of Suspense Vol 1 58 | Marvel Database | Fandom

Behind the issue:

This issue guest stars Captain America. It seems it was a “test run”, as starting in issue #59 the book gets split into two shorter stories, one continuing Iron Man’s adventures and the other featuring Captain America. Within a few months, every Marvel hero is going to have their own title, or split a title with another hero (Tales to Astonish featuring Giant-Man and the Wasp will add a Hulk feature. Amazing Tales starring the Human Torch will add the Thing, with an additional regular feature with Dr. Strange).

In this issue:

Kraven the Hunter and the Chameleon are smuggled back into the U.S. Almost immediately, Kraven is captured by Iron Man, as the entry point for them was a Stark Corp. factory. What terrible luck for Kraven. Thereafter, Captain America tells Iron Man about his battle with the Chameleon and how he barely escaped. But it turns out it was the Chameleon disguised as Captain America. Iron Man was fooled, and he goes after the real Cap and fights him. They eventually figure out the truth, while the Chameleon is captured by Giant-Man and the Wasp.

Assumed before the next episode:

The Avengers likely start seriously thinking about their security set up - and whether they should learn each others’ secret identities.

This episode takes place:

After the Chameleon has been captured.

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