Nov 1, 2021 • 14M

Episode 98: Are Ant-Man and Giant-Man the same person? (Tales to Astonish #51) -- January 1964

Open in playerListen on);

Appears in this episode

Edward Nevraumont
What if... the Marvel Universe was real? In 1961 the Fantastic Four revealed themselves to the world and everything changed. Mike and Ed discuss the in-universe implications of super powers, aliens, monsters and more. From how Avenger Insurance will pay for Thor's property damage to why Spider-man needs a new PR agency, its comic books discussions in a whole new way. Every issue covered in the Marvel Universe from the very beginning. Full backstory on every episode with transcripts at
Episode details

In this episode:

Mike and Ed discuss whether it was a coincidence that Giant-Man joined the Avengers just as Ant-Man disappeared (and now seems to be working with Ant-Man’s former partner The Wasp), or are Ant-Man and Giant-Man the same person? Also, the Human Top is revealed to be David Cannon, the world champion speed skater. Was he using his speed powers to cheat in Olympic competition? How many other world class athletes are actually superhumans who are hiding their full abilities?

Tales to Astonish (1959) #51 | Comic Issues | Marvel

In this issue:

Giant-Man is desperate to capture the Human Top, so much so he creates a spinning robot which replicates the Top’s abilities for practice. Meanwhile, the Human Top continues his life of crime! Giant-Man and the Wasp eventually track the Top down, and the battle is ferocious, with the Top escaping the dynamic duo with highly secret civil defence plans. Giant-Man meets with government agents to discuss how to bring the Top down before he delivers the civil defence plans to the Russians. A sting is set, as well as a trap set by the police. The battle between Giant-Man and the Human Top is joined once more, leading to Giant-Man taking the Human Top down.

Assumed before the next episode:

People are wondering how closely Giant-Man is working with the authorities - and how he may be related to Ant-Man.

This episode takes place:

After the Human Top is taken down.